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Maybe a 9. They didn't butcher the Village section at all. Everything is in there, it's just tweaked and done in different orders. And the scenario design is heavily built around backtracking and there's treasures everywhere and it's encouraged to do return trips to old areas.
Del Lago boss fight was pretty cool. It's damn near identical to the OG in terms of the boss fight.
I did encounter one cut area. Like when you finish the cabin siege, you can go left or right and there's no choice in this one. They kinda combine them.
And this is a PS4 thing I'm sure, but the head parasites in the rifle scope make the game shit itself for some reason in frame rate if there's more than one.
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I feel like Remaking REmake and RE4, 5 and 6 is just a bit of a joke. All of those games had modern charm and charisma at the time. This new age shit leaves a lot to be desired. Capcom from 1998 to 2008 couldn’t almost be beat.
I will say Ashley has the personality of a tree stump and has nothing likeable about her. And holy shit does she get tripped up EASILY in this one. You think she was annoying in the original? Her AI is broken to the player's favor in the original compared to this. She's completely retarded to escort.
Leon sucks in this, of course. His mom hair and meth face are gross.
Leon sucks in this, of course. His mom hair and meth face are gross.
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I still think it's weird his face model is completely identical to RE2make. It's been a while and you'd think the stress, missions and so on would toll on him like it did for Chris. Ada doesn't bother me as much but I hear a lot of people completely hate her in this game.
I guess Capcom took the complaints about Ashley way too hard....also, from some bits I saw, it looks like they tried to mix OG RE4 Leon and RE2make Leon traits. I honestly don't think it works as well, because Leon being too serious undercuts some lines. Hell some lines being exactly the same is lazy.
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I'm amazed you think that well of RE4make, even for just the start. That said, I have seen and heard about the cut post cabin area. Shame, but most people do go through both so I don't think it's the worst to be cut. I just hope that's the worst of cut content....have you noticed discrepancies between the list and your own experience yet?
Honestly though, that's great with backtracking. I respect RE4 for keeping the pace and trail consistent and barely letting up but that helps make RE4make's case good.
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Capcom games will never be what they once were. RE4 was the last good classic RE game (despite REmake2 being fairly good, it just isn’t the same as the older games) and DMC4 was the last good Devil May Cry.
Monster Hunter World was fairly good, but about on par with Lost Planet 1 for me. Both are good games though. I hate to suggest they remake Onimusha, because that would just end up being meh as well.
Monster Hunter World was fairly good, but about on par with Lost Planet 1 for me. Both are good games though. I hate to suggest they remake Onimusha, because that would just end up being meh as well.
The gore is in there. I don't know why people said it isn't. They just strangely opted for a different kill animation with the chainsaws. It's to the body, not the head. It's graphic but in the end it just looks like grapejelly smeared on his torso and there's no separation. The headbursters can cut your headoff and it doesn't do some dumb cut from it. You see him headless.
I wasn't crazy about the Mendez fight. I like the original more, but they didn't change his transformed state even a little bit. It's exactly the same and the same two part fight. I mentioned I like Del Lago's fight earlier. I dunno which I like more. The original is more difficult for sure since there's way more shit in the lake for your boat to hit to toss you out and there was none of that here really. I don't even think I took damage. That being said, it was decent and better than Mendez. Mendez is kinda a clusterfuck in phase two.
I forgot cabin and El Gigante. Cabin is a clusterfuck and it's only hurt because of the slower mechanics because of "realism" of switching between weapons and nades etc. I like the original a lot more. Gigante is pretty much another carbon copy of the original boss fight so it's neither better or worse, but I prefer the original.
I just got to the castle and the catapults were a bit in the pain in the ass since they are more sneaking with the angles you need to his the barrels to take them out. I just got past Garridor. In all honesty, I like this version a lot more than the original. He was in the original, but he's 10x more a Silent Hill subboss in this one with how he looks and especially his introduction. He isn't difficult at all. Same formula pretty much.
The two things that bug the fuck out of me in the gameplay. The way the camera behaves in a quick turn. It's very jarring and even with the analog still aiming in that direction, he doesn't immediately start running. It's fucked me a lot of this playthrough.
Another thing, the cooldown to switch weapons quickly is slow as fuck and if they're right on top of you, you can't defend in time no matter what.
Oh, the shooting range top achievement is fucking IMPOSSIBLE. It's not even skill based, it's pure luck. I got all S's for the the one I came across, but there's a secondary achievement is hitting these skull emblems. I gave up after almost an hour since the later ones in the round are so fast and far away they're impossible to hit.
But anyway. I'm a bit into the castle and I like it. It feels more like a real place. There's a lot of nonsense shit in the original but it's almost like a REmake interpretation of the castle the best way I could describe it. But bear in mind I'm not very far into it and I think I'm about to start the water room.
She's really terrible and she gives you nothing to want to save her for. She's infinitely more likeable in the original since she's quirky and has a voice that feels unique. This one just feels like a depressed college girl whose only income is OnlyFans.
BTW I've been playing it with the classic OST. It doesn't quite fit the game but my new game plus I'll use the intended one to see how it is.
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Saved right before the last Krauser fight. I like the game a lot up to this point, although there is A LOT of busy work with the Merchant, but you get rewards for it.
So far my gripes with it are the voice acting sucks (especially Ada holy fucking shit lol and her outfit is HIDEOUS), all the characters suck compared to the original. They reuse too many weapon assets from the two other remakes. The camera goes nuts in quick turns.
There's a lot of new areas or areas that stand in for the original but we're given a different layout. Like the area with the Regerators is completely different but there's definitely copied specific rooms they use but the hallway layout will be different. Stuff like that is a reoccuring formula. Rooms will appear in a different order than they do in the original.
I'm surprised to see every enemy type that was in the original is present in this when I really though shit would be cut. I always thought the Village was the best part of the original game and the Castle while great was not quite as good. In this, I think the Castle is probably just as good as the Village. The Island really isn't change in it's scope and area. Some areas are slightly different or entirely new but the core areas you would want to see are in there.
Del Lago, El Gigante, Verdugo are all pretty much identical to the original. Salazar isn't, but in some ways I like it better than the original and I find strange I feel that way. I died on him a handful of times where as the other three I didn't at all.
So far my gripes with it are the voice acting sucks (especially Ada holy fucking shit lol and her outfit is HIDEOUS), all the characters suck compared to the original. They reuse too many weapon assets from the two other remakes. The camera goes nuts in quick turns.
There's a lot of new areas or areas that stand in for the original but we're given a different layout. Like the area with the Regerators is completely different but there's definitely copied specific rooms they use but the hallway layout will be different. Stuff like that is a reoccuring formula. Rooms will appear in a different order than they do in the original.
I'm surprised to see every enemy type that was in the original is present in this when I really though shit would be cut. I always thought the Village was the best part of the original game and the Castle while great was not quite as good. In this, I think the Castle is probably just as good as the Village. The Island really isn't change in it's scope and area. Some areas are slightly different or entirely new but the core areas you would want to see are in there.
Del Lago, El Gigante, Verdugo are all pretty much identical to the original. Salazar isn't, but in some ways I like it better than the original and I find strange I feel that way. I died on him a handful of times where as the other three I didn't at all.
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Agreed on the castle in the original mostly for how uneven it feels. There's a lot of unnerving stuff like the cultists in the post water room hall praying, but then you have the fucking gattling gun in the next room. I've seen some of Ada's stuff and it's almost unanimously agreed that she is a total downgrade, also don't know why they changed her VA....RE2make was fine.
So Pliss, since you're near the end of the game...how much of your experience matches up with that list on cut content?
So Pliss, since you're near the end of the game...how much of your experience matches up with that list on cut content?
I just beat it. I liked it a lot, although it could be another honeymoon phase like with 2make.
The list is entirely accurate. Even with the cuts, I still like it. U3 being gone sucks, but there's enough content I think to make up for it. Some of the later boss fights are reworked but are still intact from what you remember. I think I would like Krauser so much more if they just gave him an actor that didn't sound like someone doing a Krauser impression. There's a post credit stinger which fucking stinks.
I didn't unlock much with beating it. Just costumes and visual accessories. I have the gangster outfit.
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I’m less and less enthralled by remakes anymore. And a lot of it is due to drastic cuts and heavy alterations. And some remakes are just unnecessary. Like the Last of Us and RE4. 
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The Last of Us Part I is the most unnecessary remake I've ever played sorely because of the final product being literally the same, potentially a little worse between enemy AI and some animations. I'm playing it and I am on Bill's Town, it's remarkable how identical the game is. It's the exact reason why people can't tell the difference between remake and remaster, hell Naughty Dog could come out and say 'yeah it's just a very beefed up remaster lol joke was on you all!!!' and I'd believe it. A shame since it doesn't tarnish the original and proves that game is still great but man is it one hell of a missed opportunity. Part I with Part II's gameplay would totally justify the 10/10 scores the original got.
At least RE2make, RE3make and RE4make tried to be very different games especially since OG RE4's gameplay was the basis for 2make and 3make. I can respect that even if RE3make is ok at absolute best, RE2make is showing its age mildly, and I can't personally judge RE4make yet though I'm gonna take Pliss's word that it's good for now.
At least RE2make, RE3make and RE4make tried to be very different games especially since OG RE4's gameplay was the basis for 2make and 3make. I can respect that even if RE3make is ok at absolute best, RE2make is showing its age mildly, and I can't personally judge RE4make yet though I'm gonna take Pliss's word that it's good for now.
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Also on a site I follow for figures, people got in their RE4make Collector's Editions and I found one comparison of the Leon figure in that one plus RE2make
.......HOW did the new one turn out dramatically worse? The RE2make one I found was all right, nothing special but I didn't mind it. The RE4make one is just bad lmao.
.......HOW did the new one turn out dramatically worse? The RE2make one I found was all right, nothing special but I didn't mind it. The RE4make one is just bad lmao.
Yeah the new one is God awful. Damtoys may end up doing it or a thousand other third party companies.
Pros:
Visuals are great, although there's some low res textures that take a moment to boot in if you're on PS4.
Being able to see the surrounding areas like the castle, the island factories clearly and from multiple locations is great. Like you can see the castle when you're at the lake and ride up to the cliffs below it.
Big weapon variety and the upgrade system is intact.
Scopes go on more than just rifles, and with that the rifles can be fired with iron sights if you remove the scope.
Big amounts of enemies on the screen at once with zero slow down.
Aside from U3 being cut, all the boss fights are generally the same as they were in the original with minimal changes to appearances.
A bulk of the areas from the original return but they're remixed with going through them in different order or in reverse which makes it feel new.
Big emphasis on backtracking which isn't even a thing in the original.
Merchant missions the entire game.
All enemy types return, which from day one I thought wouldn't be a thing but it is. And they even added different forms to some enemies.
Garrador is way cooler and creepier in this than the original. His introduction is right out of Silent Hill.
Dog is still alive. I don't know why this was going around months back and give how shitty 3make was, it easily convinced people like myself.
Way heavier emphasis on the cult through visuals and files and gives backstory to everyone in the village and Saddler.
Customizable treasures which can get enhanced with specific jewel combos.
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Body armor needs to be repaired.
Knife mechanics are fun and cannot be abused since they break easily early on.
You get Krauser's knife.
Charms added to the case with special properties like higher pickups for X item.
Gunpowder mechanic.
I've always considered the Castle somewhat weaker than the Village in OG. I think it's just as strong as the followup in this and definitely more visually stunning than the original.
Island didn't have major cuts. Areas are reworked, remixed or just removed and replaced with newer areas. Less of a slog, but still feels like a slog.
Mike is in the 5-4 chapter, although I think it's chapter 15.
I like this Krauser. I prefer big bowie knife, beefcake version as a look but he feels more like a character in this. It's just a shame his voice actor is fucking terrible.
A lot of post game content to unlock, accessories like masks, glasses, wigs etc.
Suit of Armor Ashley and gangster Leon return.
Matilda, Handcannon (but it's a S&W 500 from RE5), infinite RPG and Chicago Typewriter all return. And the special weapons can be ammo fed instead of infinite before the last upgrade, which I like. I prefer to require ammo for stuff.
Original OST. It's all I'll ever use probably. The Krauser boss music fits very well in this.
Shooting ranges return.
All the chapters are structured the same way as in the original and end on the same bulletpoints. It's just they're not structured like in the original like chapter 3-1. 3-2 etc. There's 16 chapters in total.
I don't know what the consensus is, but my final time was about 20 hours. I think my playthrough of the original is the same.
Cons:
Acting is dogshit. Not one actor is pleasant to listen to. No character is really likeable like they were in the original.
And to piggyback on that point. Ada's VA is HORRENDOUS. It's actually shocking how bored her cadence is.
Mendez second phase boss fight is stupid. His torso just goes to the end of the barn to throw shit at you for most of that part.
U3 cut.
JJ cut for some guy with a minigun on his forearm which sucks.
Fork path cut.
The bear trap section of the mines is gone.
The mine cart section is dumb and tries to be Temple of Doom so hard.
Novistadors are completely nerfed.
The second Verdugo vanishes off screen and isn't involved in the Salazar boss battle.
Quickturn is incredibly slow and he won't start running immediately.
Movement can feel really janky at times.
The cooldown of switching weapons quickly is really slow when you really need it and you can pull the trigger and it won't fire and an enemy attack takes priority. It's incredibly frustrating.
The camera is really fucking janky sometimes. Like if you're in a bushy area, with your back up against the bushes, they'll cut into your view and completely obscure Leon and what's in front of you.
Way, way too many reused weapon assets from RE2 and RE3.
Some of the shooting range challenges are luck and not skill based.
For the people that hated Ashley in the original... you don't know what pain is when you experience her in this. Getting her out of the church cemetery is a complete pain in the balls. Her AI is awful where as in the original she's glued to your ass the entire time.
Cut mecha Salazar but he's replaced with a flamethrower statue thing.
Truck section cut and replaced with Ashley smashing a wall with a wrecking ball which is eh. I'd rather do the truck again.
The 5-4 chapter is in this, and not really reworked and it's fucking as terrible as the OG.
Saddler boss fight is great, until her turns into a Dead Space monster in the final section, and then Leon does some dumb shit like the end of RE2 and stabs him like he does Birkin.
Wesker post credits stinger is awful because the new VA is awful since Douglas was fired for being a coomer.
Ada doesn't want to give Wesker the parasite because he hints of his aspirations of RE5 and she has a change of heart. Which is dumb and never even mentioned in the original.
So more positives than good. Although I might pick it apart after the honeymoon is over. It's a lot better than I expected. But again like 2make, has little things that bug me. Honestly it's the reused weapons from the previous two games that bother me the most.
Rating: 9/10
It's not REmake, but it's far better than 2make and 3make. It doesn't replace the original, but it hits all the beats that stick out from the original. It's a great companion piece. This should be a template on how they fix CV.
Visuals are great, although there's some low res textures that take a moment to boot in if you're on PS4.
Being able to see the surrounding areas like the castle, the island factories clearly and from multiple locations is great. Like you can see the castle when you're at the lake and ride up to the cliffs below it.
Big weapon variety and the upgrade system is intact.
Scopes go on more than just rifles, and with that the rifles can be fired with iron sights if you remove the scope.
Big amounts of enemies on the screen at once with zero slow down.
Aside from U3 being cut, all the boss fights are generally the same as they were in the original with minimal changes to appearances.
A bulk of the areas from the original return but they're remixed with going through them in different order or in reverse which makes it feel new.
Big emphasis on backtracking which isn't even a thing in the original.
Merchant missions the entire game.
All enemy types return, which from day one I thought wouldn't be a thing but it is. And they even added different forms to some enemies.
Garrador is way cooler and creepier in this than the original. His introduction is right out of Silent Hill.
Dog is still alive. I don't know why this was going around months back and give how shitty 3make was, it easily convinced people like myself.
Way heavier emphasis on the cult through visuals and files and gives backstory to everyone in the village and Saddler.
Customizable treasures which can get enhanced with specific jewel combos.
AUTO ARRANGE ATTACHE CASE
Body armor needs to be repaired.
Knife mechanics are fun and cannot be abused since they break easily early on.
You get Krauser's knife.
Charms added to the case with special properties like higher pickups for X item.
Gunpowder mechanic.
I've always considered the Castle somewhat weaker than the Village in OG. I think it's just as strong as the followup in this and definitely more visually stunning than the original.
Island didn't have major cuts. Areas are reworked, remixed or just removed and replaced with newer areas. Less of a slog, but still feels like a slog.
Mike is in the 5-4 chapter, although I think it's chapter 15.
I like this Krauser. I prefer big bowie knife, beefcake version as a look but he feels more like a character in this. It's just a shame his voice actor is fucking terrible.
A lot of post game content to unlock, accessories like masks, glasses, wigs etc.
Suit of Armor Ashley and gangster Leon return.
Matilda, Handcannon (but it's a S&W 500 from RE5), infinite RPG and Chicago Typewriter all return. And the special weapons can be ammo fed instead of infinite before the last upgrade, which I like. I prefer to require ammo for stuff.
Original OST. It's all I'll ever use probably. The Krauser boss music fits very well in this.
Shooting ranges return.
All the chapters are structured the same way as in the original and end on the same bulletpoints. It's just they're not structured like in the original like chapter 3-1. 3-2 etc. There's 16 chapters in total.
I don't know what the consensus is, but my final time was about 20 hours. I think my playthrough of the original is the same.
Cons:
Acting is dogshit. Not one actor is pleasant to listen to. No character is really likeable like they were in the original.
And to piggyback on that point. Ada's VA is HORRENDOUS. It's actually shocking how bored her cadence is.
Mendez second phase boss fight is stupid. His torso just goes to the end of the barn to throw shit at you for most of that part.
U3 cut.
JJ cut for some guy with a minigun on his forearm which sucks.
Fork path cut.
The bear trap section of the mines is gone.
The mine cart section is dumb and tries to be Temple of Doom so hard.
Novistadors are completely nerfed.
The second Verdugo vanishes off screen and isn't involved in the Salazar boss battle.
Quickturn is incredibly slow and he won't start running immediately.
Movement can feel really janky at times.
The cooldown of switching weapons quickly is really slow when you really need it and you can pull the trigger and it won't fire and an enemy attack takes priority. It's incredibly frustrating.
The camera is really fucking janky sometimes. Like if you're in a bushy area, with your back up against the bushes, they'll cut into your view and completely obscure Leon and what's in front of you.
Way, way too many reused weapon assets from RE2 and RE3.
Some of the shooting range challenges are luck and not skill based.
For the people that hated Ashley in the original... you don't know what pain is when you experience her in this. Getting her out of the church cemetery is a complete pain in the balls. Her AI is awful where as in the original she's glued to your ass the entire time.
Cut mecha Salazar but he's replaced with a flamethrower statue thing.
Truck section cut and replaced with Ashley smashing a wall with a wrecking ball which is eh. I'd rather do the truck again.
The 5-4 chapter is in this, and not really reworked and it's fucking as terrible as the OG.
Saddler boss fight is great, until her turns into a Dead Space monster in the final section, and then Leon does some dumb shit like the end of RE2 and stabs him like he does Birkin.
Wesker post credits stinger is awful because the new VA is awful since Douglas was fired for being a coomer.
Ada doesn't want to give Wesker the parasite because he hints of his aspirations of RE5 and she has a change of heart. Which is dumb and never even mentioned in the original.
So more positives than good. Although I might pick it apart after the honeymoon is over. It's a lot better than I expected. But again like 2make, has little things that bug me. Honestly it's the reused weapons from the previous two games that bother me the most.
Rating: 9/10
It's not REmake, but it's far better than 2make and 3make. It doesn't replace the original, but it hits all the beats that stick out from the original. It's a great companion piece. This should be a template on how they fix CV.