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Gee, it’s almost as if alienating fanbases is not good business? Hmm.

Absolutely done with Warner Brothers and DC at this point. About to cancel Netflix, once I watch season 3 of the Witcher. Did not and WILL not watch Andor. No interest in anything LOTR anymore, thanks to Amazon.

And the MCU is on life-support. Spider-Man, Guardians and Thor are the few things keeping it above ground, for me. And the prospect of Venom, Wolverine, Deadpool, Punisher and Daredevil all coming into the fold.

All these franchises live and die by the masses. Placating a few thousand people and alienating almost HALF the fanbase, in many cases, is simply NOT good business. You’re not in the business of sending messages and making statements. If you want to be an activist… go be a fucking activist. But keep your grubby little fingers to yourselves and stop ruining franchises.

I mean, I guess it’s great for the wallet right now. What with a recession bearing down on us. These stupid franchises are the least of our worries. Some people out there can barely even afford to buy food and gas every week.
 

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Or if you want to be a media activist, then do a different franchise altogether.

Agreed on MCU but Thor has lost a LOT of appeal after Love and Thunder. That was just...laughably bad.
 

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Thor won’t have anymore solo movies. He’s only going to be part of other films at this point. Which I’m fine with. I still like his character. I really did not like Love and Thunder though.
 

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It's strange since Love and Thunder feels like a really weird epilogue or close off to his solo adventures...and Ragnarok felt like it was that too. In fact, Thor in Ragnarok, Infinity War and Endgame (mostly) was pretty great! He was pretty complete by then, and given the circumstances of everything, he just made sense.
 

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I hope the bone cancer was worth it for Hemsworth. He's been on drugs for years and pretends that he isn't. Same with the Rock.
 

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I really liked Thor’s character. Even though they turned him into even more of a buffoon in Endgame. Love and Thunder is just a bad film all around though. It’s very skippable, unless you are a diehard fan.
 

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Does Chris Hemsworth use steroids though? I kinda don’t feel like he does. I think it’s just natural hard work. The Rock openly admitted to using it. And just looking at him now, you can tell that he’s got to be on something. I don’t even think Jason Momoa takes anything and he would fit the profile more than either of the former two.
 

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There's no fucking way he isn't on drugs to look as big as he is and be dry all year round without sauce.

All of pedowood that is in capeshit is on drugs. I used to think Jackman was natural, but I think definitely by DOFP he was taking some shit.


You cannot put this type of size on in less than ten years naturally, and even then his size and vascularity is very suspicious.

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Hasn’t he basically been working out five days a week for the last almost ten years though? He definitely was not as large as that all those years ago in the first Thor movie.

I think I’d trust Hemsworth having that mass more than most. Hugh Jackson probably took something after X-men Origins for sure. He was quite old by that time as it is.

Zach Efron did roids? Can’t watch the video currently.
 

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You cannot add this type of size in 1-2 years without seeing a pharmacist.

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Jackman didn't become suspicious until Origins and beyond. Even by X3 I think that was still him. That's fully attainable in 5 years and he was still in his 30s. Even the difference between X1-2 is not even dramatic. He only trained for like a month and a half for X1 and had newbie gains but his arms were tiny. X2 filmed two years later and it just looked like he had more time to train, probably 6 months to a year and looked like a guy that just lifted weights, and not taking drugs.

It's when you're still big, but your body fat is nonexistent and you're covered in dickskin year round that you're clearly on drugs. But yeah, they're all on drugs. Chris Pratt I guess was briefly. Cavill has been on drugs since Man of Steel. His change was too dramatic too quickly to be anything but that.

Ironically I think the crew of 300 were all natural. Butler was in the best shape in that, but he trained longer. They weren't even big, they were just lean with a bit of muscle. They used a lot of airbrushing to heighten their cutlines.
 

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I really liked Thor’s character. Even though they turned him into even more of a buffoon in Endgame. Love and Thunder is just a bad film all around though. It’s very skippable, unless you are a diehard fan.
Thor is a good character, but they didn't know how to use him unlike the other Avengers at times. It makes sense, he is a god and way too powerful. Hulk too kinda. In Civil War, those two would have just made it unfair lol.
 

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You cannot add this type of size in 1-2 years without seeing a pharmacist.

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Jackman didn't become suspicious until Origins and beyond. Even by X3 I think that was still him. That's fully attainable in 5 years and he was still in his 30s. Even the difference between X1-2 is not even dramatic. He only trained for like a month and a half for X1 and had newbie gains but his arms were tiny. X2 filmed two years later and it just looked like he had more time to train, probably 6 months to a year and looked like a guy that just lifted weights, and not taking drugs.

It's when you're still big, but your body fat is nonexistent and you're covered in dickskin year round that you're clearly on drugs. But yeah, they're all on drugs. Chris Pratt I guess was briefly. Cavill has been on drugs since Man of Steel. His change was too dramatic too quickly to be anything but that.

Ironically I think the crew of 300 were all natural. Butler was in the best shape in that, but he trained longer. They weren't even big, they were just lean with a bit of muscle. They used a lot of airbrushing to heighten their cutlines.
I'm kind of in agreement with you on Hemsworth. Even by celebrity standards, that's insane. Unless they CGI'd him...which makes me wonder how they got his Endgame build and then back to 'god build'....

Jackman is strange though. Very. They don't seem to really capitalize on his build much? So why the potential steroids?

On this note, what do you think of others like Christian Bale? Dude is known for his rapidly changing build.
 

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I'm kind of in agreement with you on Hemsworth. Even by celebrity standards, that's insane. Unless they CGI'd him...which makes me wonder how they got his Endgame build and then back to 'god build'....

Jackman is strange though. Very. They don't seem to really capitalize on his build much? So why the potential steroids?

On this note, what do you think of others like Christian Bale? Dude is known for his rapidly changing build.
Jackman's size is not suspicious to me at all. He never was "big" ever. He was always average sized and never had large arms. He just got slightly fuller and more sculpted as the films when on. It's that he's got gigantic bicep veins all the time in the later films and that's a dead giveaway. He's on something. Definitely TRT, but most older men should be on that anyway. But beyond that? I really don't know. but you cannot have that level of bodyfat and have hard muscle like that. I'm not saying he doesn't work hard.

I think for that nude scene in DOFP, I think he didn't drink water for three days or something. Pro bodybuilders do that before competition. As for when he started. I'm not convinced but maybe Origins. But definitely by The Wolverine since that is when he started getting VERY vascular and you don't get bicep veins naturally. I've had bicep veins, but their faint and only really pop out doing curls but that's from being pumped. He looks pumped all the fucking time and that's unnatural.

See the spiderwebbing bicep vein? That's drugs. It's not his size, it's his vascularity that gives it away.

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This is 100% drugs.

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As for Bale, I actually think he's natural. He doesn't look to ever have had an unattainable physique. I think people blow out of proportion how actually big he got in Batman Begins. Even when he was super cut in AP, he wasn't veiny really whatsoever. And he doesn't have that at all here. He just looks like a dude that trained really hard for six months or more while dieting clean.

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Keep two things in mind. He was crazy lean in American Psycho, but he wasn't big whatsoever. They wanted him to be purely chiseled and he said he was "so fucking sick of chicken breast." Not for nothing, but in my early 20s I was pretty close to what he looks like from the neck down in American Psycho, but that was because I was unintentionally starving myself because I didn't understand nutrition, but my cut lines were stellar. I was around 7-8% bodyfat. I wasn't big at all, but you look more muscly if you have low fat. Guys like Jackman and Hemsworth are 5% fat or under. You cannot get that low ever naturally and still maintain a gigantic size. Hemsworth is bigger than Jackman ever was, but if he was natural he'd have a much higher bodyfat percentage. You could only look that cut for a short time since your body will start eating itself from not eating. That's where the drugs come in and maintain the size while you still eat like a truck and your bodyfat is rock bottom.

The other thing is people like to compare this to what he looked like a year earlier in the Machinist. One, it's really easy to put weight on. Just fucking eat. Two. He already built a great physique a few years back. There's research into muscle regrowth after an injury or you lifted in the past and start up again. You can rebuild it far faster than if you were a newbie because you're body retains some sort of cell or something but it goes dormant and when you start feeding it with food and exercise, you regain your size and strength really quickly. I've done this myself many many times.

Here's an article talking about it.

 
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