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If you tone down the fucking pandering that goes on in the story, the game itself is actually better than the first. There’s some really interesting things you can do in Part II that are not possible in the first game in the slightest. I’d love to see improvements to the third game.

The story is where they just lose a whole shit load of points though. They teased the game like it was going to be another Joel and Ellie show. Instead, you have to play as the sack of shit that kills him.

This crap that people keep saying, “well, Joel had it coming, he was a bad guy.” Most everyone in the post apocalypse is a bad guy, you fuckwad. I’d say he redeemed all the bad he did by saving Ellie. They weren’t going to be able to synthesize a cure. Not one that would actually work the way they think it would. Joel weighed the risk and felt it wasn’t worth killing a little girl over it.
 

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OH yeah, TLOU II plays great. I honestly thought it wouldn't but wow, it really did. I'm not sure if pandering was the issue besides that dumbass character Lev.

It wasn't even just teasing that it would be another Joel and Ellie game, it was outright misleading because I remember seeing the trailers show Joel in points that was later a different character.

And you're right. TLOU's point is pretty much everyone in the apocalypse is a bad guy. Not like how those raider groups in the first game just killed for shits and giggles as opposed to actual survival because they are just pure evil, but how everyone is selfish in some way. Which made Joel a great character, he knew how to survive and admitted he wasn't a good person. You can argue this somewhat for Abby too, except everyone still insists she's some angel. Even when in-game, they say Abby is a piece of shit. I'd also argue most everyone in TLOU is almost their own protagonist and someone else's antagonist, which could have been a great angle for Abby and her father, but ND very much screwed that up.

I would honestly want a new set of characters in a new setting at this point. Not just since I think I and II's cast are...beyond damaged at this point in every sense of the word, but we need to move on. Maybe give proper closure to the old cast like 'Ellie and Dina fixed their problems, Abby and Lev found the fireflies, etc'. But there's more to see in TLOU's world, which would be great. I honestly did not like how TLOU II was like 80% in Seattle, even though it was well designed. I liked how the first game had a real sense of constantly moving. Imagine if we got Illinois, Texas post-pandemic and so on in this world.
 

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Apparently now we're getting Part III and people are shocked the average person didn't like Part II.
Part 2 was a failure in comparison to the first one. The leaks that came out right before release killed a lot of it's revenue.

Games and films are not in the business of making money anymore. They're just to push agendas.
 

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The shit they added to appease certain people really did hurt the game and the franchise. If they’re smart, they’ll have learned from their mistake and include far less of that crap in part 3… although, I’m not holding my breath.
 

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They want to move every established series to somewhere else without bringing their core audience with them.
 

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The shit they added to appease certain people really did hurt the game and the franchise. If they’re smart, they’ll have learned from their mistake and include far less of that crap in part 3… although, I’m not holding my breath.
And that same shit actually did piss off the people they wanted to appease lol....I don't know who actually liked Lev. People didn't mind Ellie being a lesbian or the hint that Bill was gay. Because it wasn't as poorly done nor were the characters as poorly done period.

That said, given how - apparently - some characters in the HBO series are being totally changed like how I think Joel's daughter Sarah is now black...we're gonna see history repeat.
 

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And that same shit actually did piss off the people they wanted to appease lol....I don't know who actually liked Lev. People didn't mind Ellie being a lesbian or the hint that Bill was gay. Because it wasn't as poorly done nor were the characters as poorly done period.

That said, given how - apparently - some characters in the HBO series are being totally changed like how I think Joel's daughter Sarah is now black...we're gonna see history repeat.
No one cared because they didn't draw attention to it and Ellie's deal was only speculated until DLC came out which was Cuckmann's work.

Now every single white character needs to be washed with another race.

And I'll say right now, I fucking DESPISE when races are swapped no matter what the original color was. Al fucking Simmons is black. Blade is black. War Machine/James Rhodes is black. I don't want anyone changed, but the woke crowd wants all white characters eliminated.
 

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And then we all pay for their mistakes and get blamed.
Of course. It's SOP to blame the audience you're trying to brainwash with nonsense. Disney has only lost money with all their new shit. They took a bath over Rangz of Powa and She Hulk, but they can afford to. But they cannot do that forever. MCU is a dead issue and they spend half a trillion on Tolkien's rights to make no money. The Jackson films were printing money because they didn't try to race swap anyone. It's based on European folklore, and when you deviate from that, or any beloved literature, people steer clear of it.

Disney isn't an entertainment company anymore. They're not in it to make money. They're in it to grave rob and rape the bodies with their cultural marxist bullshit.
 

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No one cared because they didn't draw attention to it and Ellie's deal was only speculated until DLC came out which was Cuckmann's work.

Now every single white character needs to be washed with another race.

And I'll say right now, I fucking DESPISE when races are swapped no matter what the original color was. Al fucking Simmons is black. Blade is black. War Machine/James Rhodes is black. I don't want anyone changed, but the woke crowd wants all white characters eliminated.
There was more to each character beyond being a part of the LGBT too. What did Lev have? Nothing. Kid was so poorly done.

HOW will Joel's daughter not being the same race as he is work? We never got to know Sarah's mom (I don't know if she was Joel's wife....), so this'll open up a lot about her. But I kind of liked how we never even hear about her. Now there's going to be stuff about her and I'm not a fan of that.

People really don't get the issue with race swapping, it's exactly what you said. 2015 Fantastic Four was stupid with race swapping Human Torch.
 

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Of course. It's SOP to blame the audience you're trying to brainwash with nonsense. Disney has only lost money with all their new shit. They took a bath over Rangz of Powa and She Hulk, but they can afford to. But they cannot do that forever. MCU is a dead issue and they spend half a trillion on Tolkien's rights to make no money. The Jackson films were printing money because they didn't try to race swap anyone. It's based on European folklore, and when you deviate from that, or any beloved literature, people steer clear of it.

Disney isn't an entertainment company anymore. They're not in it to make money. They're in it to grave rob and rape the bodies with their cultural marxist bullshit.
It's crazy how Disney is doing this, I remember people said they were terrified but now all of a sudden, it's everywhere with them. Also, their push with She Hulk....is really weird. The character and actor are both white women. I'd been fine with Ms. Marvel since I liked it, hell even Scarlet Witch. Not to mention I don't think She Hulk is that popular in the comics compared to the other women....

Disney was always about the money to be fair.
 

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There was more to each character beyond being a part of the LGBT too. What did Lev have? Nothing. Kid was so poorly done.

HOW will Joel's daughter not being the same race as he is work? We never got to know Sarah's mom (I don't know if she was Joel's wife....), so this'll open up a lot about her. But I kind of liked how we never even hear about her. Now there's going to be stuff about her and I'm not a fan of that.

People really don't get the issue with race swapping, it's exactly what you said. 2015 Fantastic Four was stupid with race swapping Human Torch.
The race swapping thing is to erase your predictive programming on what a character should look like so you're constantly living in the present. They want to burn it all down since they cannot create anything of value. Every time they do this, it draws money like a wet fart. It's like that Charlies Angels reboot they did recently where they were literally saying "this isn't for white men" or some shit, and no one saw it and it bombed so they blamed men lol.
 

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It's crazy how Disney is doing this, I remember people said they were terrified but now all of a sudden, it's everywhere with them. Also, their push with She Hulk....is really weird. The character and actor are both white women. I'd been fine with Ms. Marvel since I liked it, hell even Scarlet Witch. Not to mention I don't think She Hulk is that popular in the comics compared to the other women....

Disney was always about the money to be fair.
They were about the money during the Avengers build up era, now they're just doing experimental propaganda to see what works and what doesn't work. They have enough money to last decades probably and they have money streams from other things. Like child trafficking probably.

They're an evil company they should be eliminated.

How do you fuck up Star Wars? It was a license to make 100 billion, and they put out a weak stronk wahmen trilogy that everyone hates. And they're doing that with Indy all over again.
 

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The race swapping thing is to erase your predictive programming on what a character should look like so you're constantly living in the present. They want to burn it all down since they cannot create anything of value. Every time they do this, it draws money like a wet fart. It's like that Charlies Angels reboot they did recently where they were literally saying "this isn't for white men" or some shit, and no one saw it and it bombed so they blamed men lol.
It basically just causes more problems in the long run because in some way, a character's race was some aspect regardless.

Pretty sure the Charlies Angels thing also applied to the Ghostbusters reboot lol.
 

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They were about the money during the Avengers build up era, now they're just doing experimental propaganda to see what works and what doesn't work. They have enough money to last decades probably and they have money streams from other things. Like child trafficking probably.

They're an evil company they should be eliminated.

How do you fuck up Star Wars? It was a license to make 100 billion, and they put out a weak stronk wahmen trilogy that everyone hates.
Let's...not talk about the child stuff....jeeze. Disney won't ever be taken down sadly.

There was a lot of potential for the new Star Wars stuff and I was surprised there was a distinct way to mess it all up. The funny thing is how the actors hated their time on it apparently.
 

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It basically just causes more problems in the long run because in some way, a character's race was some aspect regardless.

Pretty sure the Charlies Angels thing also applied to the Ghostbusters reboot lol.
Oh fuck I forgot about that. Yeah that tanked completely on it being anti men.

I don't even get made at the race thing anymore since it's all I expect now. It started with regular ole movie remakes ten years ago and now every capeshit film needs to remove a White character instead of just making a new one.
 

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Let's...not talk about the child stuff....jeeze. Disney won't ever be taken down sadly.

There was a lot of potential for the new Star Wars stuff and I was surprised there was a distinct way to mess it all up. The funny thing is how the actors hated their time on it apparently.
That new trilogy is the result of giving the control of it over to a man hating cunt that only got into her position from blowing Spielberg since the 80s.

There hasn't been an action movie in a long time besides Top Gun 2 I liked.
 

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Oh fuck I forgot about that. Yeah that tanked completely on it being anti men.

I don't even get made at the race thing anymore since it's all I expect now. It started with regular ole movie remakes ten years ago and now every capeshit film needs to remove a White character instead of just making a new one.
The funny thing is the original Ghostbusters wasn't even anti-women from what I recall. Chris Hemsworth's character being just bumbling eye candy for the women is so telling.

I don't either, I'm just like 'sigh here we go again'.
 

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The funny thing is the original Ghostbusters wasn't even anti-women from what I recall. Chris Hemsworth's character being just bumbling eye candy for the women is so telling.

I don't either, I'm just like 'sigh here we go again'.
And that's why the newer GB so much better since it tried to tie itself into the universe without being woke bullshit. While it isn't something I'm interested in, I did watch some clips from it and I didn't hate it.
 

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The story is where they just lose a whole shit load of points though. They teased the game like it was going to be another Joel and Ellie show. Instead, you have to play as the sack of shit that kills him.
It's way worse because Abby is a good character that suffers from the twist of perspective and them making her into a roid monster (which she wasn't in the 2017 trailer).

This crap that people keep saying, “well, Joel had it coming, he was a bad guy.” Most everyone in the post apocalypse is a bad guy, you fuckwad. I’d say he redeemed all the bad he did by saving Ellie. They weren’t going to be able to synthesize a cure. Not one that would actually work the way they think it would. Joel weighed the risk and felt it wasn’t worth killing a little girl over it.
TLoU2 sucks ass because instead of expanding on the original's grounded gray morality aspect and showing life is hard, not black-n-white, they went with childish "revenge is bad you see". The core concept of the sequel wasn't fitting at all so I wouldn't even listen to people who think that it's a good one.
 
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